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I had to have both front rotors replaced at 40K miles because of warped rotors. Now dealer says I need front compliance bushings need to be replaced. is there a correlation here? rotors were replaced under warranty.
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The compliance bushings are basicly the lower control bushings.
not uncommon on them. May be covered under 5/60 powertrain warranty post vin& i can check.
yes there is a correlation. The bushings are designed to dampen lateral motion of the front wheels under braking. They are hydraulic and prone to leak/fail prematurely. This will exacerbate any variations in the front rotors and transmit vibrations to the steering wheel under medium to light braking applications. It is a combination of two problems. 2009+ Pilots are prone to brake vibration. My pilot had brake shimmy and I fought to get the problem covered by Honda. They cut the rotors and put new pads on at ~30k miles. The problem re-occurred about 15-20k later so I installed new pads and rotors myself. The problem happened again and I took the car in pointing out the compliance (thrust) bushings were leaking. The bushings are not replaceable and they had to install new control arms, lucky me I had an extended warranty so it was covered ($700). I was surprised that I had to point out the correlation of the brake problems and the bushings to them, they were not aware of this issue and did not have the parts in stock (which means its not common, because they stock parts they use). The forums indicated the problem to be relevant. I doubt they will cover the issue outside of 3/36 warranty but it doesn't hurt to ask. I hope this helps.
I know what they are...but is the a correlation between the warped rotors at 40000 miles and the need for new lower arm bushings at 52000 miles?
The rotors get warped because of heating and cooling, usually hard braking will heat thwm and cold weather cools them rapidly and warpage is a result. The bushings did not cause the warp.
THe warp came before the bushings problem. The warped rotors were replaced by Honda because they know they have a problem with them. i am just wondering if the bushings showed damage at that point and should have been replaced also? if this were your car, would you willingly and happily pay to replace these bushings at your expense at 52000 miles?
I guess you could have used the reason was the rotors were warped causing the vibration which lead to the bushings failure.