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2002 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD, Allison M74, crew cab bought new. Allison gave out at 13,000 miles and was re-built. Engine, injectors and? just gave out at 163,000 miles. Dealership says it would cost about 10K to repair. Not worth it. What can I do with it now? Never will I buy anything but imports from now on.
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What kind of import would you buy to replace this truck with? Transmission was done under warranty, one would think! ..Now $10,000 to repair what?? More info needed.... You have a 'repair' question or just venting?.... It's up to you what to do with the truck....
Have you considered getting a repair estimate from a qualified diesel mechanic repair shop instead of the $$$Dealership$$$? Injectors are good for 100,000 miles. From my understanding of what happens when a diesel injector starts leaking, it burns a hole in the top of the piston. The dealership isn't going to replace the bad piston, sleeve, and injectors, instead they will recommend an entire engine replacement.
Yes, I have considered that but so far, both have said it probably isn't worth it as there is so much more that could be involved. That, plus in the San Francisco Bay area labor rates are averaging $85.00 to $125.00 per hour I can't tell you how perfectly I have serviced this truck. I have a 3 ring binder with every single detail and item of service, parts, etc. since the first quote. I carry it in the truck so every service person can see it's history. Thanks for your response
I also keep repair documentation as you do. My view on automobiles is that they are designed to last 100,000 miles, and after that the repair bills will start piling up. No brand is spared Toyota included, as I have owned a few. A Lexus sales person once told me that they consider any vehicle with over 70,000 miles as high mileage. My thoughts are to purchase a brand new vehicle, drive it for say 28,000 miles then sell it before the warranty runs out, then buy another new one. That way you should be spared from the additional expense of all those repairs and down time if you can afford it. You will have a nice vehicle, and someone else can deal with all the costly repair bills. By the way my daily driver is a slightly rusty 1983 Chevy K5 blazer with recently replaced used military takeout 6.2l diesel normally aspirated motor purchased from ebay.com for $600.00. Bought it from a salvage yard for $2,500 with a rebuilt transmission and anybody's guess how many times the odometer has turned over, but it suits me fine. It is like an old Harley motorcycle, need to work on it constantly to keep it purring, but parts are cheap.
No, Allison did not cover the transmission replacement. I even drove to the Allison Corp. offices and met with two officers. They punted and said it wasn't the tranny but Chevy's problem. I paid for that. Here's the various remarks from the service department on this situation: ANALYZE OIL LEAK: Noted diesel fuel mixed with engine oil leaking out of every orifice due to fuel in oil all the way to the differential. ENGINE MECHANICAL: Installed scanner and checked for coeds and noted P0089, P1094, P1093 Tried to ramp fuel pressure up to 140 Mega Pascale would not go any higher than 70MPA or 7,000PSI will need to replace 8 injectors and seals and recommend fuel and air filters also to start with and then recheck will need to replace 8 fuel injectors for lst step of repair cannot rest fuel system properly until injectors replaced may also need injector pump and may have damaged bearings for crankshaft and camshaft due to fuel in oil. MULTI POINT VEHICLE INSPECTION: Brake Inspection (in some cases) may only be a visual esitmate and not a true measurement depending on the complexity of the brake system inspection process. RECOMMENDATIONS: Replace all injectors estimate: $6,200.00 Replace fuel and air filters, may need fuel injection pump estimate: $3025.00 May have internal damage to camshaft and crankshaft bearings due to fuel in oil. What kind of import would I buy....well for years I've told my husband to buy only American and he bought two Hondas instead. We still have both and both are running incredibly well. The 1989 Honda was stored in a garage at our small vacation home. I just used it for two weeks after it sitting untouched for 14 months. Started right up and ran like a gem. Both Hondas have over 250,000 miles with no major repairs. Two friends have Toyota Tacomas both with over 200,000 miles. No major repairs. I lean towards the Tacoma. Was I looking for a solution or just venting....both because if I thought by spending about $6,000.00 on this truck it would last another 4 or 5 years, I would.....but thanks for responding.
Were the injectors replaced under the recall from GM? ..Cant remember issue date but there was one!... I am not a diesel mechanic but in 40+ years of auto repair i have a good idea how they work! That's unusual for this engine....even the first gen! I really think you could have gotten the trans. fixed under warranty....that makes no sense to me why GM would not cover it... I've seen these trucks go 300k...no problem.... However there has got to be a few that do not.... I guess i am just a bit partial to Chevy!...The imports cant touch 'THIS TRUCK'.....imo! ...(taking trucks here!)