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This has never happened at any other time, and only lasts a minute or two. I have never had trouble starting the van. No warning lights appear. I brought it to a new mechanic who diagnosed a fuel pump leak and is charging me $850 to replace it. I asked if it could just be the fuel filter, and he said the pump's leaking gas, which could potentially be dangerous, so it needs to be replaced. Does this sound like a rip off?
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Shops are reporting a problem with the gas tank on Dodge Caravan, Grand Caravan, Plymouth Voyager, and Town and Country vans. Shortly after refueling, drivers experience engine stalling. The stalling may repeat several times. The problem is the vapor/liquid separator valve located at the top of the fuel tank. The valve is designed to prevent liquid fuel from entering the charcoal canister/emissions system. When the valve fails, liquid gas can enter the line and fill the charcoal canister. After refueling the PCM on the vehicle detects a change in fuel level. Then, when the engine meets certain temperature and driving criteria, the PCM issues a purge command to the charcoal canister to remove the stored gas vapors. It's at that point that all the liquid gas in the line gets sucked into the charcoal canister. The PCM expects to see gas vapors entering the intake manifold and it is prepared to adjust air/fuel mixtures to compensate. However, it is not prepared to see liquid gas coming into the intake. That's what causes the engine to stall. Unfortunately, the ONLY fix is to replace the entire gas tank. Chrysler does NOT sell the vapor/liquid valve as a separate unit. Once the tank is replaced and the charcoal canister purged, the problem goes away. I am 110% CORRECT ON THIS
yes some what. it might be an issue with the evap system.
Thank you very much! I've never smelled gas... how would I know I actually have a dangerous leak in my fuel pump? My van normally starts/drives fine (with some engine noise).
I agree with a problem in the evap system.the purge valve can be stuck open and the fuel vapors are flooding your intake right after filling up
I replaced the purge valve and will caution the gas attendants not to top off the tank (in NJ we can't pump our own gas). Thanks for the advice!
My van has the same problem...it happens if you continue to pump gas in when filling up and after hose clicks off indicating the tank is full you try to get that last little bit in with two more tries and hose nozzle click off two more times....here's your answer... when you overfill these Chrysler vans you run gas into the carbon canister so when you crank it up it sucks raw gas into engine causing a temporary TOO RICH condition which makes it stumble and stall as soon as you leave the station and can stumble when pulling out in traffic causing unsafe potential traffic accident
google this question. I have the same problem and the solution was too expensive for me (I can't remember the solution, but if you google it, you will find out how to fix it, if you can afford it and it wasn't the fuel pump to my recollection) my suggestion, from a mechanic friend, is, don't fill the tank all the way up, or if you accidentally do, pull off in the gas station and put it in neutral and rev the engine for a few minutes. It's a pain in the neck, but so far it has worked. It has something to do with the emissions control not working right, I think. Sorry this is sort of vague, but my suggestions have worked.
Well, Joe, getting a new tank did NOT work and so this is apparently NOT the main issue with these vans stalling. So now I can tell you that I am 200% CORRECT ON THIS since we went and bought another tank and still have the same issue and that was after replacing a slew of other parts. I'm posting this now so no one else wastes their money on this lemon of a vehicle that should've been recalled by Chrysler years ago.