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Question: Would you buy a high mileage (100k plus) BMW X5

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dougwells, 6 Cylinder, Park City, UT, January 12, 2011, 22:13
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I'm thinking of buying a BMW X5 with 100k to 120k miles. What do you think? My last car (not a BMW) lasted 225k miles with little to no maintenance (regular oil changes, kept up on the routine stuff and had a great "roadside" mechanic)

- What do you think the average life of the X5 is? Can they easily get to 200k miles or will repairs get to frequent/expensive?

- Can a non BMW authorized mechanic do a good job on BMWs? He is a generalist (lots of Honda, Toyota, and American car experience but not much BMW specific).

- What main items would you tell me to look for in a prepurchase inspection. I plan to have a BMW shop do the prepurchase? What is a reasonable fee for a pre-purchase inspection at a BMW shop?

- Is there another BMW model that I should consider? I need 6 to 7 seats minimum....

- Any other advice? My other car choice is an Acura MDX. Dependability is important to me....

Any and all thoughts are appreciated.

Thank You,
Doug

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    Visitor, January 13, 2011, 06:48

    no. why would any intelligent person buy a car that is 50% more to service...domestic would b a better choice

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    ZeeTech, January 13, 2011, 08:15
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    The money isn't always an object and we all have different taste.
    I don't agree with your "buy a domestic, it's cheaper to maintain" statement. It won't necessarily cost 50% more, sometimes it's actually cheaper.
    Here are few example: a 2000 Chevy Tracker window regulator cost $ 400.21, the same part for a BMW X5 $196.
    2000 Chevy S10 Blazer OE fuel pump $ 654.21, 2000 Volvo S80 OE fuel pump $277.47

    Zee

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    ZeeTech January 13, 2011, 07:13
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    The key thing is the maintenance. Sometimes I see a high mileage car (120k+) in an excellent condition, better than one with 60K.
    Around 100K you should expect the following:
    - breather valve / oil separator and all breather and vent hoses
    -valve cover gasket with spark plugs
    -condenser fan
    -suspension issues, control arm bushings, ball joints, struts with mounts
    -some bushings at the rear suspension, rear shocks
    -window regulator(s)
    -change "lifetime" ATF and filter in the transmission
    -air intake hose, the connecting hose to the idle control cracks
    -the VANOS might need to be resealed
    -bunch of software updates for many controllers

    The oil quality and replacement interval is very important. Remove the oil filler cap and wipe your finger inside the valve cover and see if there is excessive gunk and sludge deposit in there. Watch for "coffee ground" looking things.
    I'd also scan all the modules for trouble codes.
    I think 2 hours of labor rate would be a good price to pay for a pre-purchase inspection, including a scan test.
    The problem is with a generic mechanic or shop that they probably don't have a GT1 or Autologic to correctly diagnose or update the softwares in your vehicle.
    I'd suggest a BMW specialty shop if you plan to buy a Bimmer.
    I hope someone can give you some good advice on the MDX.

    Zee

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    Visitor, January 13, 2011, 07:45

    Thanks Zee. Extremely helpful. Two followup questions...

    - If the BMW specialty shop confirms that the vehicle has been well taken care of, what would you tell me I should budget for annual maintenance (assuming some of the listed items happen?). Just ballpark... $3k/year, $5k, $10k, etc.

    - Do you have a suggestion for a BMW specialty shop in Salt Lake City, UT (zipcode 84106)

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    ZeeTech, January 13, 2011, 16:50
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    The above repairs are considered as "long term items", they should be good for the next 70-100K miles.
    What I suggest to do: replace the engine oil in every 5000 miles, use a good quality oil, like Mobil1 5W40 or 0W40 with a Mann or the OE BMW filter (made by Mann, but cost you more).
    Beside this, you can follow the rest of the regular maintenance.
    If you can find an X5 6cyl. in good condition and with some luck, the average annual maintenance should be way less than $3000. Of course it depends on the annual mileage too.
    Even if you have to do all the common repairs I listed, it should be somewhere between 3 and 4000 and you are back to the regular services, which would be an oil change in every 5K miles, a small service in every 15K and a bigger service in every 30K, brake system flush in every 2 years and cooling system flush in every 4 years, spark plugs and connectors in every 100K. Of course you still have the regular wear items, like tires, brakes, etc..., but you have these on any other vehicle.
    One of the key thing is: do the maintenance regularly, use the correct fluids i.e.: the blue OE coolant - not the green one, and quality parts.
    The other important thing is to find a good, honest Euro or BMW specialty shop in your area. Talk to their clients in the waiting room, check their BBB and/or Angie's list records.
    I'll check if someone has a shop in your area among the good tech that I know from other forums and seminars or training. Give me few days, please.
    Meanwhile you can use RepairPal's shop locator to see what's available in your neighborhood.
    One more thing, before I forget it. I'm talking about the inline 6 cylinder engines. The X5 with a 4.4L and 4.6L V-8 has a lot more problems with engines and transmissions. They can be a real money pit. In the last 2 months I had 3 with major transmission issues beside the regular engine problems. I don't advice you to get a V-8.
    Good luck to find one and enjoy it!

    Zee

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    dougwells, January 13, 2011, 19:49
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    Thank you Zee. Your advice was extremely helpful. I'm beginning to understand that the BMW can be a dependable car that has reasonable annual maintenance costs, if the routine maintenance is kept up.

    If you find any suggestions for a good independent shop for BMW work in Salt Lake City, please do let me know.

    Best - Doug

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    ZeeTech, January 19, 2011, 05:54
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    Doug,
    Sorry, but it took for a while. If you still need a BMW specialty shop, contact to these guys.
    They are specializing in European vehicles and in business over 16 years. They can certainly check a used car for you and give useful advices.

    Alex's Autohaus
    7470 S. State
    Midvale Utah
    84047
    801-566-6115
    Web site
    alexsautohaus.com

    Zee

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    Visitor, January 19, 2011, 08:20

    Excellent. Thank you Zee.

    Doug

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    wlodek May 03, 2011, 23:58
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    i own one x5 2001 ,i love my car,and i am mechanic more than 30 years if all problems has been fixed.and car has over 100000 miles you can enjoyfor another 100 or more.but you must remember any repair or service cost twice as much as any japanise or domestic car.there is not any cheap price for parts or labor .as a exemple for you to remember,replace al four brakes with rotors pads and sensors cost of 800-900 hundred dolars .tires set of 4 front and rear 1300 hundred.engine replacment 26000 thausend dollars.if dose prices dopnt scare you,you will love this car for german eingeniering safety power acceleration beating mustang ,and corvette,they can only smell yours tail pipe.remember also today flling up your fuel tank $100 .for me i still have adventge of you i can repair my self,parts cost me less too.that my opinion of x5 4.4 liters engine

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