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2007 BMW 650i Question: top will not open or close says its locked, it won't move an inch

 

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stevewhite, Saint Johns, FL, January 11, 2011, 19:24
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I have a 2007 BMW 650i convertible the dash has an alert sign saying the top is locked and isn't closed all the way. it won't move at all

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    patrick mannion from Greg Solow's Engine Room, January 11, 2011, 20:48
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    I am not familiar with the 650, I would first check the owner's manual
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    ZeeTech January 12, 2011, 05:01
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    There is a common problem with the rotation sensor on the tensioning bar, it's submits incorrect signal to the CVM (Convertible Top Module) and the CVM "thinks" the top is closed.

    Here is the SIB 541706 for this problem:

    Body - Convertible Top Won't Open/Close Completely

    SI B54 17 06
    Special Roofs

    November 2006
    Technical Service

    SUBJECT
    Convertible Top Does Not Completely Open or Close

    MODEL
    E64 (6 Series Convertible)

    SITUATION
    The customer may complain that either the convertible top will not completely open or close, or the convertible top appears to be completely open/closed, yet the red top operation light continues to flash and the top not locked message appears.

    Fault code A6A4, for overspeed, will typically be stored in the CVM (Convertible Top Module) when this situation occurs.
    CAUSE
    The angle of rotation sensor on the tensioning bar is reading the wrong segment.

    The sensor position segments are very close together; therefore, if the frame or the sensor itself is slightly out of position, the wrong segment may be read.

    This condition is exaggerated by temperature-induced expansion, such as when the vehicle sits in direct sun for an extended period of time.
    CORRECTION
    The angle of rotation sensor has been updated with improved tolerances for segment recognition.

    The updated parts have been produced from 8/2005.
    PROCEDURE
    In case of a customer complaint, follow the recommendations below.
    - Attempt to reproduce the customer's complaint. This may require allowing the vehicle to sit in the sun to promote some degree of temperature induced expansion.
    - Compare the convertible top statuses via the DIS Plus or GT1, to the known correct statuses displayed in the attachment.
    - If the angle of rotation, tensioning bar, is reading the wrong segment at any position of the convertible top, proceed with procedure A or B.

    Procedure A - vehicles produced up to 8/2005:
    - Replace the angle of rotation sensor with the updated part.
    - Note: The part number did not change, and the updated part can be identified by a date code of August 1, 2005, shown as 1.8.05.
    - Allow the car to sit in the sun with the top closed and then verify the correct operation of the top.
    - If the same condition returns, follow procedure B

    Procedure B - vehicles produced from 8/2005:
    - The existing sensor will need to be removed from the convertible top frame and modified.

    Zee

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    Visitor, January 12, 2011, 12:32

    If it has less than 50,000 miles it is under the four year/50K warranty and will be free at the dealer. Otherwise, you will need a scan tool with BMW software that can scan the body control module.

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