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2005 Ford F-350 Super Duty Question: Rough cold start, white smoke only when cold

 

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sboat, 6.0L V8 Diesel Turbo, Sumter, SC, February 23, 2009, 13:28
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Summer or Winter, the first cold start of the day is very rough. One cylinder fires. After five seconds, Two cylinders are firing, Five more seconds, Three, then Four, and eventually Eight. After Five to Ten minutes warming, first acceleration produces massive white smoke for as long as Two minutes. The rest of the day my super fine F-350 starts great even after being off for up to Four hours, and does not smoke at all. I'm hoping to make my truck's first start of the day much less remarkable. Thank you for your advice, Steve

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    February 23, 2009, 16:35
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    You'll want to check your coolant level to see where it's at. Can you tell if the white smoke has a sweet, coolant odor to it?

    The 6L diesels have water cooled EGR cooler that is known to crack and leak internally into the engine. It can look a lot like a head gasket. It would be a good idea to do a pressure test on the cooling system to rule out any leaks. I'm guessing water in the cylinders can cause a rough cold start for diesels if it has accumulated.
    hope this helps

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    Visitor, November 11, 2010, 00:06

    Thanks, I'll be watching for that when it occurs. This time it turned out to be injectors. replaced the all and even got 2 more mpg's in the deal. Steve

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    Visitor, March 21, 2010, 15:45

    sounds like u have fuel injector problems

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    Visitor, November 11, 2010, 00:07

    Thanks, turned out to be injectors. replaced the all and even got 2 more mpg's in the deal.

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    Visitor, June 19, 2010, 06:37

    Ford has a TSB on this. Here is the TSB.
    This article supersedes TSB 06-22-3 to update the Service Procedure. ISSUE: Some vehicles equipped with a 6.0L diesel engine may experience white smoke, lack of power, exhaust odor, surges, running rough, or no start when cold. These conditions are caused by the injector spool valve sticking internally during cold engine operation (engine oil temperature (EOT) less than 70 °F ( 21 °C)) . The concern is typically evident following a cold start after an overnight soak at ambient temperatures below 70 °F (21 °C). and may last 3-5 minutes or longer as the vehicle warms up. The concern completely disappears after driving and the EOT is greater than 150 °F (66 °C). This concern typically occurs on vehicles with greater than 15,000 miles (24,140 Km/h). ACTION: Diagnose and address any warm driveability issues or hard fault diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) prior to performing this TSB. Then if cold driveability symptoms still exist use the following Service Procedure. SERVICE PROCEDURE This procedure includes a FICM calibration that adds inductive heating of the injector coils to locally heat the oil in the injector to normal operating temperatures very rapidly and keep it hot until normal overall engine oil temperature is achieved. This will prevent cold spool valve sticking on all injectors. Therefore, it will not be necessary to replace fuel injectors for the cold driveability symptoms listed in this TSB. Inductive heat is active in Key On Engine Run (KOER) mode below 2500 RPM. It is tapered out from 131-167 ° F (55-75 °C) EOT, and is fully deactivated above 185 °F (85 °C) EOT.
    *Printable View (70 KB) TSB 07-5-4  COLD START DRIVEABILITY - WHITE SMOKE, LACKS POWER, EXHAUST ODOR, SURGES, RUNS ROUGH, OR NO START - 6.0L Publication Date: February 27, 2007 FORD: 2003-2005 Excursion 2003-2007 F-Super Duty 2004-2007 E-350, E-450 NOTE: DO NOT USE CLICK TEST OR POWER BALANCE TO IDENTIFY COLD INJECTOR PERFORMANCE ISSUES, BECAUSE THE INDUCTIVE HEATING STRATEGY IS NOT ACTIVE DURING THESE TESTS. INJECTORS WHICH DO NOT RESPOND IN CLICK TEST OR POWER BALANCE WILL RESPOND IN NORMAL RUN MODE WITH THE INDUCTIVE HEAT CALIBRATION
    This updated calibration strategy is a greater improvement than the previous post-cycle Fuel Injector Control Module (FICM) software release that cycled the injectors after shutdown (TSB 06-22-3). This strategy will eliminate the need to post-cycle the injector spool valves, and as a result will also eliminate the need to perform the E-Series wiring modification. The strategy achieves rapid heating of the oil in the injector through inductive heating of the injector coils. The Customer Information Sheet that was included with TSB 06-22-3 is no longer necessary. Customers who receive this new calibration after previously having received the post-cycle calibration (described in 06-22-3) will notice the buzzing noise at shutdown has been eliminated. This is normal, as the
    NOTE: IF THE VEHICLE RUNS ROUGH OR HAS A MISFIRE WHEN THE ENGINE IS AT OPERATING TEMPERATURE, DIAGNOSE THOSE CONCERNS BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH THIS TSB.
    post-cycle is no longer needed with inductive heating. Additionally, for E-Series there is no need to remove wiring modifications that were previously performed per TSB 06-22-3. Unmodified E-Series vehicles will NOT need the wiring modification with this calibration. 1. Using Module Reprogramming: FICM menu in IDS, reprogram the FICM to the latest calibration using IDS release 47.8 and higher or 48.2 and higher. This new calibration is not included in the VCM 2007.3 DVD. Calibration files may also be obtained at www.motorcraft.com. 2. If the customer previously had the Post Cycle calibration, notify them they will no longer hear the injector cycling after engine shutdown. WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage And Emissions Warranty Coverage IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part. DEALER CODING NOTE: The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by "do-it-yourselfers". Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a Ford, Lincoln, or Mercury dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article. The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates. The most recent information is available through Ford Motor Company's on-line technical resources. Copyright © 2007 Ford Motor Company OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME 070504A 2003-2007 F-Super Duty, 2003-2005 Excursion, 2004-2007 Econoline 350/450 6.0L: Reprogram The Fuel Injector Control Module (FICM) (Do Not Use With 12650D, 12650D84) 0.7 Hr. BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE 9E527 42

    There was also a TSB that suggested that it was also caused by poor oil maintainence procedures and I have been treating mine with an additive that attaches to and helps to remove oil deposits. My thoughts are that there could be sludge in the injector passages that are adding to the problem. Since my treatments began and the update was completed, my problem has been almost entirely eliminated and is getting better with each oil change.

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    November 10, 2010, 08:13
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    i have 2005 f350 6.0l also did the same thing, it looked like a tea kettle from exhaust pipe,(egr cooler had leaks in it)thus the white smoke coming out of tailpipe, because it was burning antifreeze until it warmed up, we put an egr delete kit in it,now i no longer have issues with that, however blue smoke is now coming out of tailpipe and the motor stumbles and hesitates, my advice to you is put an egr cooler delete kit in it and that will solve your white smoke issue when starting up for the first day, i know it worked for me.

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