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2003 Ford Taurus Question: Is it possible for my engine to have seized up AFTER an oil change?

 

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Screwedbytheshop, 3.0L V6, Washington, DC, January 23, 2014, 00:02
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The car was low on oil, a little more than one quart remaining, and it was running fine still. I then drop it off for an oil change, pick it up, and only make it about 5 miles from the shop, all the while it was rattling like crazy (which it was not doing when I brought it there) and then it died. They tell me the engine seized when the oil they had put in got hot, and it's not their problem that the engine seized. And oh yea, these same D-bags decided to put in an alternator and a battery which I did not need or authorize, and want the money for that. I did, however, ask them to fix a faulty latch on a rear door of the car, which they DUCT TAPED shut instead. So yea, that's the kind of shop I'm dealing with

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    pushrod January 23, 2014, 01:59
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    Need a little more info! Only one quart of oil was remaning in the engine when you got to the shop, how do you know that? Have you checked the oil to see if it is at the proper level since this happened? Was it knocking when you picked it up at the shop? Did any warning indicators on the dash show a problem before the engine seized? As for the battery and alternator, did you mention 'anything' to them besides an oil change and the door latch problem? Why would the shop just out of the blue replace those parts? What was their explanation for that? This shop been in business for awhile? We'll get to the faulty latch and duct taped door later!

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    Screwedbytheshop, January 23, 2014, 03:11
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    Well the owner of the shop "said" there was only one quart in it when he changed the oil, so that's what I'm basing that on. After It took a shit I checked to make sure they actually did, and there was plenty of fresh looking oil on the stick at that point. But yea, when I picked it up it was definitely knocking and like rattling, but I guess I figured it would just stop considering I had just picked it up from getting "fixed". But then a light came on on the dash that looked like a picture of a loose screw right before it died. The guy just kinda took the liberty of installing shit I didn't ask for I guess because he's like a friend of my girlfriends father, he does all the trucks for his construction company so I'd have to imagine he plays that kind of bullshit with him all the time if he's doing it to me now.. He claims that even though he did the oil change, "the damage was already done" causing the engine to seize. But I'm thinking if the engine was already done for by the time I dropped it off, why would he have let me pick it up and drive off with it, and how would it have even started and ran by that point. I picked it up, and got about 5 miles from the shop and it died out. Now the guy thinks I owe him another $200 for THAT tow, which is funny to me cuz if he knew the engine was done, why put in the alternator and a battery, which I know we're fine cuz we had run one of those computer diagnostic things before I even brought it to him, which is how I determined it was a starter that I needed. There was no reason for a battery cuz when I checked that, it was putting out 12.5-13 amps or volts or whatever car batteries put out, which also has me thinking the alternator was fine too. And even if it wasn't, I don't see how he can just do shit I didn't ask for and charge me for it without calling me to tell me what he was trying to do. Thanks for taking the time to answer, I hope the facts of my rant here include enough info to clarify the situation a little better

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    pushrod, January 23, 2014, 03:19
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    Yes it does! Good point. I think you need to go and have a 'calm' talk with the shop owner to see if something can be resolved. Since he is a friend of your girlfriends father, that may or may NOT help! Possible slippery slope!!

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    globalhelper January 23, 2014, 06:40
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    WOW SOUNDS LIKE THEY MAY HAVE FORGOT TO FILL THOIL AFTER DRAINING.WE HEAR HAVE BUREAU OF AUTO REPAIR TO DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES OR AAA. DO YOU HAVE A GOV AGENCY THAT REGULATES AUTO REPAIR SHOPS?

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    Screwedbytheshop, January 23, 2014, 08:56
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    No there definitely was oil in it when it seized, but what I'm looking to figure out is if it's possible for the "damage to have already been done" as they told me. It was dead in my driveway n u had it brought there gie a new starter, and when I picked it up, it died a few miles from the shop. Sotheby's question is, would it be possible for tge engine to seize after the oil was put in

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    Screwedbytheshop, January 23, 2014, 08:56
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    No there definitely was oil in it when it seized, but what I'm looking to figure out is if it's possible for the "damage to have already been done" as they told me. It was dead in my driveway n u had it brought there gie a new starter, and when I picked it up, it died a few miles from the shop. Sotheby's question is, would it be possible for tge engine to seize after the oil was put in

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    cardocIII, January 23, 2014, 11:14
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    Engine damage from running low on oil can ultimately result in its failure at anytime in the future. If it happens to have occurred right after it was finally serviced, then it did what cars do, break whenever they darn well want to. For the engine to have been that low on oil suggests neglect on the drivers part. How often does the oil level get checked and added when needed? That's probably a rhetorical question in this case and now it is going to come down to how well the shop documented and communicated what they found. There have been many occasions where the shop did everything correctly, except for the documentation and because of that they get to be held liable for the owners neglect. (BTW who is Sotheby?)

    So, to repeat, yes the damage could have been and probably was already done and even with the new Band-Aid the patient still died.

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