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2004 BMW X3 Question: interior window condensation

 

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jerhan, Ipswich, MA, January 17, 2011, 11:50
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radiator fluid low,rear passenger carpet wet,condensation interior windows

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    Visitor, January 17, 2011, 12:05

    If i had to take a guess i would assume that you have clogged sunroof drains and slightly a slightly low coolant level. You would need to have the drains cleaned and the cooling system pressure checked and topped off.

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    ZeeTech January 17, 2011, 14:48
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    Is the carpet wet from coolant or clean water? It would make a big difference in the diagnostic point of view.

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    jerhan, January 17, 2011, 16:02
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    clean water but there is an oder?

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    ZeeTech, January 17, 2011, 18:19
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    I'd make sure the sunroof's drain are not clogged.
    Fold up the front carpets and check if there is a sign of water or coolant in that area.
    The OE BMW coolant is blue in color, after it's mixed with water it turns quite light, especially in small quantities.
    Fill up the reservoir to the max level and pressure test the cooling system to see where is the coolant leak.

    Here is a TSB (SIB) from BMW about water entering the rear area from the sunroof. It's only a part of it, if you need the whole thing post an e-mail, please.

    Body - Water Leaking From The Panoramic Sunroof

    SI B54 06 06
    Special Roofs

    October 2009
    Technical Service

    This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B54 06 06 dated November 2008.

    [NEW] designates changes to this revision
    SUBJECT
    Water Leak from Panoramic Sunroof

    MODEL
    E53, E70 (X5)

    E61 (5 Series Sports Wagon)

    E83 (X3)

    E91 (3 Series Sports Wagon)
    SITUATION
    The customer may complain of a water leak from the overhead console area during heavy rain or when driving and/or parking on a steep slope facing downhill.

    CAUSE
    Possible causes.

    A. Obstructed or damaged drains or drain tubes

    B. Void in the windshield urethane bead

    C. Excessive water entering the cassette

    D. Inadequate water management system in the sunroof cassette.

    CORRECTION
    Inspect various components of the sunroof system. Perform a leak test and then perform the recommended repair, based on the outcome of these inspections.

    An improved sunroof cassette with an optimized water management system has been implemented in production since 10/05.

    The current improved part is available as a complete color-keyed cassette, as opposed to the bare frame previously available.
    PROCEDURE
    Inspect for the following causes and perform the applicable repair.

    Cause A (Obstructed drains):
    ^ Inspect the cassette drains and drain tubes for any obstructions or kinks in the tubes.

    ^ If any concerns are found with these items, they should be cleaned and/or repaired and/or replaced as necessary.

    Cause B: (Windshield sealant)
    ^ Inspect the top edge of the windshield glass for any possible voids in the urethane bead.

    ^ Using water or compressed air may help in locating a leak.

    ^ If any voids are found, the windshield must be replaced.

    Cause C: (Excessive water entering the cassette)
    ^ Inspect the condition of the perimeter seal and the gap clearance between:

    1. The sunroof glass and the roof panel.

    2. The two glass panels.

    3. Note : A 5.8 plusmn; 0.3mm gap all around (without seal) is required and can be measured with the special gap tool, P/N 00 9 341, or similar.

    ^ If any excessive gaps are found, adjust the glass panels as per RA 54 13 003.

    ^ If the perimeter seal appears to have deteriorated or be permanently compressed in any way, it must be replaced per RA 54 13 055.

    ^ After adjusting the glass and replacing the perimeter seal, the sunroof should be water-tested. If the sunroof still leaks, proceed to cause D.

    Cause D: (Inadequate water management)
    ^ If no fault could be found with causes A-C, perform the following actions:

    1. If the vehicle was produced before 10/2005, replace the sunroof cassette per RA 54 13 080.

    If the vehicle was produced after 10/2005, do not replace the cassette, but still perform the following countermeasures.
    Note : The cassette available is the color-keyed updated cassette, complete with headliner and glass panels.

    2. Apply light electrical contact grease to all the electrical connectors and the emergency call (SOS) switch in the front interior light console. The surface area must be cleaned as necessary.

    3. Replace the perimeter seal as per RA 54 13 055.

    4. Install the absorbent pad kit as per the instructions provided in the appropriate Absorbent pad kit attachment.

    Note : This kit must be installed exactly as shown in the attachment for maximum effectiveness.

    5. Perform the additional sealing operation as described in the Cassette sealing attachment.

    6. Initialize the sunroof per Repair Instruction 54 0 ...

    7. Water-test to ensure proper water management.

    It goes on from here .......

    Zee

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    jerhan, January 18, 2011, 05:48
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    Thank you very informative

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    Bavarian Performance Group (20 Answers) , Winchester, MA - (781) 536-5050
    BavarianPerformanceGroup February 24, 2011, 10:28
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    Topping off the coolant is simple, just make sure you use BMW coolant.

    The sunroof drains on the X3 are an issue and cause 99% of water buildup in the rear cargo compartment of the car. To clear them out you need to blow high pressure compressed air through the lines. You can access the drain lines either by blowing air through a tube run into the drains in the sun roof cassett or though by removing the roof liner in the back.

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